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I don't know if this is an appropriate question to ask here, but I thought this would be the best place to ask. I have noticed (especially recently) a LOT of spam questions (true spam, like for body-building products or magic ED fixes). I noticed three within the span of a few hours the other day and just flagged another one now. I feel like this site gets more than it should and more than the other site I'm on (Photography).

So, my questions are:

  1. Am I completely wrong in my assumption that there is way too much spam, or have others noticed it too?

  2. Is there anything that can be done to prevent spam questions like these from ever being posted?

  • You might want to look at Charcoal HQ's statistics -- briefly, Drupal is the site in the Stack Exchange network which receives the most spam in relation to its user base, but Apple.SE is probably in the top 5 (8th position by absolute numbers). For a start, you might want to check out the chat room and see if you can find a way to contribute. – tripleee Jan 3 '17 at 5:13
  • Only site admins are in a position to prevent spam from being posted in the first place. They have some IP-range blocks in place, for example, though the details are not well documented, for obvious reasons. Maybe ask over at meta.stackexchange.com instead as this is in no way specific to this site. – tripleee Jan 3 '17 at 5:14
  • The tools mentioned in the answers do a good job in flagging/deleting spam posts within minutes. If you want to help just flag such posts as spam and move on. – nohillside♦ Jan 3 '17 at 6:32
  • Just to complain more: Seriously? Three in less than 15 minutes??? i.stack.imgur.com/hXIzt.png – NoahL Jan 4 '17 at 4:51
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Yeah, for whatever reason spammers tend to become attached to specific sites. AD happens to be a lucky winner:

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Detected spam over the last month

The system has some clever logic in place to block quite a bit of this... but there's a ton coming in anyway, so some will get through. There's also a community project that does rather well.

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This site does get more than it's fair share of spam at the moment, considering it's size and it's increased of late:.

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All time: enter image description here

I'm noticing the more popular programming sites tend to get more. And I think spammers see Apple and think - let's go Now that last bit is my opinion as to why.

Charcoal HQ monitors spam that makes it to the sites. I got these charts courtesy of the metasmoke stats, used in Charcoal HQ. Any spam reported in Charcoal gets deleted with flags. The more people active in the room at the time, the quicker it is deleted.

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The most powerful tool we have for immediate use is for everyone to flag as spam on those posts. That ensures the best improvement on the tools to detect and suppress spam.

You are right. The past month here has more spam than possibly 10 months before. We the elected moderators sincerely thank you all for flagging these ham fisted spam posts so we can get them deleted from view.

Here is a search that lets moderators search for the posts fitting his pattern - https://apple.stackexchange.com/search?tab=newest&q=deleted%3a1%20locked%3a1%20migrated%3ano

10k users can see deleted posts - once they get the link. Currently, 10k users can only search for their deleted posts - not anyone's posts.

  • Agreed, they get flagged & deleted fairly quickly; I just wish we go go Boom!! ByeBye with a single-click ;) btw, search looks similar to Patrix's below - looks like mods-only. – Tetsujin Jan 4 '17 at 7:42
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    The deleted:1 search option works differently for non-mod 10K users - they see only their own deleted posts. So unless 10K users are spammers themselves, they won't get anything. – user97627 Jan 4 '17 at 7:53
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    @zaq Thanks - I better edit that out if no one useful can benefit. We already have shared that link amongst the moderation team. We're aware of the pain and share in the wish to have a perfect filter. Alas - turning up the screws on the algorithm has a need to have someone to clear false positives. It's an arms race between the algorithm to block spam and the spammers. For a good long time, the algorithm has won decisively on our site. – bmike♦ Jan 4 '17 at 12:46
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It's not just Ask Different, but a number of Stack Exchange sites (e.g. Stack Overflow, Super User, etc) do seem to get more than their fair share. Sometimes sites seem to be targeted, while at other times not so much.

In terms of your question about whether there's an automated way to stop it, you may like to check out the following:

In a nutshell, there's a bot called Smoke Detector that currently has an accuracy threshold of 99.75%. So, most spam is dealt with automatically and the ones that get through don't last very long.

To help fight spam you may want to consider signing up to give Smoke Detector access to flagging spam posts with your account. But even if you don't, you can flag spam posts manually and usually find they're gone pretty quickly.

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I really wish there was a one-vote ban-hammer on these - maybe like the gold badge one-vote close.

Maybe you could gain a spam-hammer badge after successfully flagging 100 with no false positives, or an ability added to users over x rep [perhaps with a review queue after the fact, to make sure it's not being mis-used]

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    Have a look at apple.stackexchange.com/…, it usually only takes a few minutes before spam questions are downvoted into oblivion. If anything I would prefer a "delete as spam and destroy user immediately" button :-) – nohillside♦ Jan 3 '17 at 20:53
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    @patrix That search isn't going to work for non-mods. – Undo Jan 3 '17 at 22:37

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